 How To Offer Effective Composer Feedback (This was written for Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied Facebook group, a growing community of composers with 7.2K+ members. See more detail on FSOA here.) FSOA features weekly admin-approved threads where composers may share original music and exchange positive, constructive feedback with peers. Below are suggestions to offer ideas for how to offer feedback to fellow composers. WHAT DO YOU WANT Remember, in Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied group, our united goal is to help each other improve as composers. Think about what you’d want listeners to tell you about your music. It’s nice to hear positive things about our original ideas. But getting a few ‘likes’ and generic comments about how great your music is does not tell you anything useful. You want to hear what makes it great music, right? If you get feedback on what's working, you can compose more music, equally as great! Or, if your music needs work, you'll want to know how to get it from ho-hum to legendary status. THERE IS NO RIGHT OR WRONG Some people have studied music formally, while others are self-taught. The important thing is to find a way to express your feedback that shows what you know about music, and communicate that naturally. None of us need to be a musical legend to give useful, effective feedback to a composer! We just need to be willing to offer what we know. Some of my most useful feedback has come from non-musicians, without any use of music vocabulary! We know that experiencing music is completely unique to each individual, so there is no right or wrong about how it’s perceived. And every artist enjoys hearing about someone being affected by their creation. ONE WAY: DON’T TALK IN MUSICAL TERMS Don't worry about whether you have enough musical vocabulary or knowledge to offer feedback to your peers! In FSOA, we’re aiming for scoring music for film directors. So, communicating without musical language can be super-helpful! Think in terms of mood, speed, color, character, scene, and story when commenting on FSOA assignments. Use these words as a basis for describing the music, and compare how the music stands up to those elements. Ask Questions Did it work? Does the music match a character’s personality? Does it show something in the story we don’t see readily? Does it point something out in the story or character that isn’t obvious, or does it make something obvious even bigger? Does the speed of the music fit the emotion, dialogue, and/or action of the scene? For example, in regard to how music can suit a character, let’s consider Hans Zimmer’s music for Batman. By using only one ominous, spacious, long, low pitch, Hans Zimmer created a musical theme that represented the Joker character. He used one sound, which he elaborated on through electronic manipulation, and later built orchestration as textures around that sound. Think about words you could use to describe what worked with that or not. For example, you could say, “I always knew to anticipate the Joker’s presence whenever I heard that one low pitch. It signaled evil, and that something unpleasant was about to happen. That music fit the scene, and especially expressed the dark personality of the Joker.” ANOTHER WAY: USE MUSICAL TERMS If you know music vocabulary, use specifics! Here are suggestions about what to listen for when preparing a feedback comment to your peers:
For example, if you hear a flute in a range below middle C, make a suggestion that it be a different instrument (such as bass flute) that plays that range in reality so the music sounds more authentic. Or, if instrumentation overwhelms the vocalist in dynamics, range or texture, make suggestions to thin out the instruments or change the range of frequencies used to allow the vocals to be heard. If the scene requires heroic music, suggest switching out the strings for the French horn section at a particular point. Or, suggest another instrument choice that is known for conveying a heroic mood.
Give specific tips on how to improve the mix, such as panning instruments to emulate where they sit in a live orchestra. Explain how production quality may be improved if you boost the volume through compression. Or, offer a link to a tutorial on the topic that would be useful for the composer.
It may be the harmonic progression, a particular chord or a note that adds an unexpected color to a traditional chord. It may be a catchy melodic or rhythmic pattern that hooks your interest.
GIVE PROS AND CONS Don’t just offer compliments on what works well in the music! The goal is to improve, and we need to know our weaknesses to develop our skills. So offer at least one comment on what didn’t work for you and make a suggestion on what you would do to improve it. SELF-REFLECT These are a few suggestions. There are plenty more things you could listen and comment on besides those discussed here. As you receive feedback on your music, ask yourself what you intended to work successfully? Are there things you remain unaware of, or need to learn? Getting feedback in those areas may open up blind spots for you so you could become better as a composer, right? GIVE BACK So let’s give something useful to a peer composer; Talk about what you know. Listen for it in the music. Think critically. Think about how you’d feel if someone gave you constructive criticism that helped you improve your skills. Now, go do that for someone in FSOA Facebook group! SUMMARY:
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 Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied Facebook Group: Composer Supportive Community FACEBOOK GROUP BLASTS OFF! [Formerly Film Scoring Practice]
by Jenny Leigh Hodgins Tailored Niche For Composers There are plenty of online groups and forums that address film score composers, allow self-promoting music/video posts, and that offer resources on film scoring. Facing the unceasingly busy swarms of social media groups vying for the attention of composers across the globe, UK-based Violinist/Composer, Victor Lloyd got an idea for a very specific niche. Chance For Real Practice However, Lloyd launched his unique idea for an online global group that would address, in particular, composers interested in practicing the art of film scoring. Lloyd envisioned a kind of community-led masterclass, with open discussions providing supportive, honest, constructive feedback to all participating members, regardless of musical background, training, level of professionalism, income, locale, or other differences. Composer Committee Launches Group Gathering additional administrators with diverse musical journeys to share the load of moderation and technical tasks, Lloyd and his composer committee (see admin list below) started Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied (FSOA) Facebook group on December 3, 2017. Within 10 months, the newly formed composer community grew to 5,600+ members, and averaged an addition of 40-100+ new members daily. Today there are 6770+ members and the group continues expanding. One Of A Kind FSOA group stands out as the only group known to be offering weekly film scoring practice assignments, and positive peer feedback specifically focused toward each participating member’s development as a composer. FSOA offers several weekly opportunities for members to practice their skills at composing to picture, improving their technology skills with mixing, mastering, and using virtual instruments and digital audio workstations. Additionally, members may post any original composition for peer feedback and exposure, so long as they accept constructive criticism politely, and do their part in listening and offering positive feedback on fellow composers’ music. Since launching FSOA, there have been numerous other composing groups that have taken Lloyd's model and adjusted it with activities unique to their groups. Be Nice Administrators monitor discussions to maintain the group’s requirement of giving and receiving constructive criticism in a polite tone. That wholly famous artistic temperament, known for egotistical complaining or berating of fellow musicians is absolutely not tolerated from any member in FSOA. In the vast online culture of competitive self-promotion, and ego-based, cruel commentary, FSOA's mutually supportive atmosphere delivers a refreshing change for composers everywhere. Since the group began, members have expressed appreciation for the positive, supportive tone of FSOA community (apparently not as evident in similar online groups). Active Engagement Apart from abiding by the group rules to only post original music within admin-approved weekly discussion threads, the group also functions as a forum for composers to ask and answer any question, and/or chime in with resources, helpful advice and expertise. Members share experiences, tips for learning a multitude of music-related skills, and explore the diversity of talent within the weekly assignment posts. Engagement and growth is steady, according to Facebook group and management insights. FSOA recently added a team film scoring challenge, offering opportunities for members to collaborate on a short film score. The group is the first to offer practice in real-life composer issues, including team-building, communication with directors (based on assigned director briefs), technology workflow and problems, and skill-development in composing for film, orchestration and mixing. Supportive Community Lloyd’s original idea has exploded with interested composers joining in discussions, assignments, and offering resources to peers. The advantage of FSOA is that its membership includes a range from total novice to full professionals. This opens the discussion and community to both mentoring and mentorship, with FSOA's professional, supportive platform. As the group grows, Lloyd’s wheels are already spinning toward development of an in-house agency with diverse, genre-specific, talented composers for film, TV and corporate projects. Join Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied FSOA Administrator Music Links: Victor Lloyd/UK Jenny Leigh Hodgins/USA Bryce Francis/Australia Caroline-Jayne Gleave/UK Stephen Morris/USA Watch Film Scoring & Orchestration Applied Promo Video Let me know in the comments if this blog helped you OR share your ideas! THANK YOU FOR SHARING this with others who may benefit from this info! You can find more creative content on Pinterest, Instagram, Twitter, Linkedin and Facebook! Recommended Articles: LEARNING TO BE CREATIVE Ideas on how to offer feedback to composers. How To Maintain Body Mind Balance As Fuel For Your Creativity 5 Ways To Use Music & Nature For Self-Care Believing In The Positive How I Created The Ocean With Music |
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